采访/朱智善 编辑/陈洁 后制/陈建铭
Clearing Occupy Causing Pessimism Regarding The Dialogue
As of Oct. 20, the umbrella revolution has gone
on for 23 days.
On the 21st the first dialogue between the Hong Kong
Federation of Students (the federation) and the Hong Kong
Government will launch.
However, faced with violent police clearing the streets
for the past few days and what the Chief Executive Leung
Chun-ying alleged foreign force mediating in the movement,
people are not optimistic about the dialogue.
The Hong Kong government indicated the dialogue
is on the premise of Basic Law and the National People´s
The federation requested that the government submit
supplementary documents to the NPC Standing Committee
to reflect the true aspirations of the people of the true
Deputy Secretary General of the federation Lester Shum
said on the 19th that Occupy Central was a spontaneous
civilian movement, and CY Leung is the only one who
can solve the problem.
Lester Shum urged the government to propose
a timetable and roadmap to resolve the current
political crisis and stressed that evacuation
is not the current focus.
On the 19th Pan-democracy Camp of the Legislative Council
issued a joint statement stressing that the government
must abandon all of the streets,
including removing obstacles before the dialogue.
However, CY Leung has not stopped police
from clearing the streets due to the dialogue.
Since early morning on the 17th when police raided
Mong Kok and attempted to remove roadblocks,
clashes between the police and protesters
have been ongoing for days.
On the morning of the 19th, police attacked protesters with
batons, resulting in seven head injuries and two fractures.
The overseas organization Citizen Power for China
(Initiatives for China), urged all walks of life in the world
to pay attention to the situation in Hong Kong.
A news release highlighted that escalated police violence
and the upcoming Fourth Plenum have created an urgency
to clear the streets.
Protesters were threatened with potential
However, CY Leung told media on the 19th
that foreign forces are involved in Occupy.
He said the protesters´ demand of civil nomination does not
meet the requirements of Basic Law, and the HKSAR
government will not turn what´s illegal to legal.
The Communist mouthpiece People´s Daily also claimed
the federation slogan, “independent destiny," reflected
that the real purpose of the movement is to seek
Hong Kong´s independence.
In this regard, the Federation Secretary General Alex Chow
indicated that so-called foreign force showed CY Leung´s
ideas to defeat the Occupy Central and labeled
the movement as the color revolution.
Occupy Central convener Chan Kin Man denied
the so-called “independent Hong Kong."
He pointed out that if the students seek independence,
why would they appeal to President Xi Jinping?
In fact, the students´ actions have actually recognized
the state sovereignty.
On the 19th evening, when addressing the Admiralty,
Alex Chow said that the government has an increasingly
tough attitude and he holds little expectation
for the dialogue.
Current affairs commentator Wu Fan: “Leung Chun-ying said
the clearing of the streets and the dialogue are two different
issues, but it is not so to the Hong Kong citizens and students.
Occupy Central and Mong Kok are the basis of the dialogue.
Without Occupy Central, there is no dialogue.
Occupy Central is the capital for the dialogue
and the two are in conflict.
I doubt the dialogue will reach any conclusion.
I am not optimistic about the dialogue, in content or in the
conflict between the Occupy and the clearing of the streets."
Hong Kong Legislative Council Sin Chung-kai: “I am not very
optimistic about the talks.
But, the talks will be better than none.
I hope there will be second round of dialogue
after the first round.
Of course, there´s a chance for a split,
but, we should not be too pessimistic."
A Ming Pao survey regarding Occupy showed nearly
70 percent of respondents are pessimistic.
They do not believe Beijing or the HK government
More than 75 percent of respondents believe
that the occupation should be upgraded.
For example, a non-cooperation movement
should be carried out.
However, some scholars believe that this is an opportunity
for “The Nomination Committee democratization,"
to become a breakthrough in the dialogue.
Sin Chung-kai: “We should not be speculating too much.
We should also reduce the pressure on them.
High expectations are not the objective.
Lower the expectations so that the space
of dialogue is larger.
A two-hour dialogue, I estimate, would be just
a rough exchange of the stands of both sides.
It will be hard to reach anything concrete."
Benny Tai, organizer of the Occupy Central, indicated
it will be hard to get results with the first dialogue.
But, he hopes the Government will agree to establish
a multi-platform between the federation, Government,
the pan-democratic camp, and the pro-Beijing camp
for communication and resolution of the social conflict.
Interview/Zhu ZhiShan Edit/ChenJie Post-Production/Chen JianMing